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			<title>Fused Spur - Concealed?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:32:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>id just crimp the 2 cables together as thats a much better connection but do a crimp joint in the back of a socket so if ever theres a problem or the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>id just crimp the 2 cables together as thats a much better connection but do a crimp joint in the back of a socket so if ever theres a problem or the cables are needed again its acessible</div>

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			<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
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			<title>Am I qualified??</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:45:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>---Quote (Originally by dv324)--- 
Hi everyone, my names Damian and I currently work in the industry in southend on sea. I have worked for an...</description>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">Hi everyone, my names Damian and I currently work in the industry in southend on sea. I have worked for an electrical company for the past 3 years and during this tim have gained levels 2&amp;3 of the c&amp;g 2330 qualification, the 17th edition wiring regs qualification (I think its the 2382?) and the 2391 test and inspect qualification. <br />
After all of this I am still unsure whether or not i am fully qualified? if not, what else do I need to gain &amp; what am I qualified to undertake at the moment.<br />
Also which is the best governing body to join? and how do I go about it?<br />
All of the information I have tried to gather seems to send me in circles, so any advise or help would be greatly appreciated.<br />
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Many thanks <br />
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</div>Hi mate . Although you have not done an apprenticeship I would say that with your qualifications you are certainly competent in performing many tasks and qualified enough to do the job to BS 7671 .:good luck:</div>

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			<title>electric radiator - Cable size</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:28:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>---Quote (Originally by initforthemoney)--- 
That only applies to cooking appliances. 
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How so? 
  
Instructions supplied have to...</description>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">That only applies to cooking appliances.</div>
			
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</div>How so?<br />
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Instructions supplied have to be followed so if they require a dedicated radial then thats what it needs.</div>

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			<dc:creator>ianmacd</dc:creator>
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			<title>NICEC whats it about</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:12:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>---Quote (Originally by steptoe)--- 
what is 2391-10 ? 
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2391-10 is the old 2391, and 2391-20 is the old 2400.</description>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">what is 2391-10 ?</div>
			
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</div>2391-10 is the old 2391, and 2391-20 is the old 2400.</div>

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			<title>RCD Trip times</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:58:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi Gs 
 
It may be your meter? 
 
Are you testing at the rcd or at a point on a final circuit? 
 
Regards chris</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi Gs<br />
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It may be your meter?<br />
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Are you testing at the rcd or at a point on a final circuit?<br />
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Regards chris</div>

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			<title>Re-wire: Best method for wiring lighting?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:14:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>like i said loop in/out at all light fittings then to switch wether a fancy light or spot lights :p unless outside light from loop / mains in to...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>like i said loop in/out at all light fittings then to switch wether a fancy light or spot lights :p unless outside light from loop / mains in to fused spur then to outside lantern bulkhead etc ;)</div>

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			<title>What to charge?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:13:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have both Luckins and Spons, the two differ a little. I very much doubt you can get a free download, I've only ever seen it in book format. My old...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have both Luckins and Spons, the two differ a little. I very much doubt you can get a free download, I've only ever seen it in book format. My old employer (from my apprentice days) has a similar book and it's quite old. It isn't by Luckins, mmmmm, made me curious now I'll ask him about it tomorrow.</div>

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			<title>Would you have missed this?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:10:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>This sounds like my house,  I have a taped up cable emerging from a hole in the back of my bathroom cabinet.  I was thinking about fitting some fancy...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This sounds like my house,  I have a taped up cable emerging from a hole in the back of my bathroom cabinet.  I was thinking about fitting some fancy lights on top but then found i didnot need any as the centre light,  gives more than enough light anyway.</div>

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			<title>fire alarm supply</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:56:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I wouldn`t - depending on the system being installed, of course. 
  
i.e. We`ve been installing in the communal area of flats. DNO supply one...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I wouldn`t - depending on the system being installed, of course.<br />
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i.e. We`ve been installing in the communal area of flats. DNO supply one overhead cable, split into 4 HEDs; each feeding a meter in the communal hallway. The meters feed KMFs, then out to the flats in tails.<br />
One flat has the tails &quot;henley`d&quot;, and a split to a communal supply. Main switch, and RCBo`s for communal socket, lighting / em lighting, and smokies.<br />
The smokes have a local &quot;hush / test / locate&quot; switch, using the same &quot;noburn&quot; 4 core as the detector cct. the two lengths are taken into the DB, and split to provide power at that point. No spur or other form of isolation provided / necessary. System is grade &quot;C&quot;, cat L3.<br />
The EM is in with the communal lighting, via a 3+E, using NM3s. <br />
To look at Sidewinder`s post; the scenarios have the back-ar5ewards cabling - fire rated for CBUs, and &quot;standard&quot; for self-contained.</div>

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			<title>couple of pat testing questions</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:52:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>---Quote (Originally by rugbymacc)--- 
5.5 fixed equipment or appliances..... (iee code of practice for in-service inspection and testing of...</description>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">5.5 fixed equipment or appliances..... (iee code of practice for in-service inspection and testing of electrical equipment)<br />
<br />
 &quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot; nothing about being portable&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;<br />
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an item of fixed equipment or a fixed appliance is equipment that is fastened to a support or otherwise secured in a specified location,<br />
eg central heating boiler,hand dryer,fixed air con unit,bathroom heater immersion heater or luminaire.<br />
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picture shows hand dryer connected to a switch..<br />
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i was told .... if safe to do so (and your competent) remove item from switch or fused spur and test item.<br />
If none of the above can be met .... perform a formal visual inspection.<br />
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I could wrong !!! but i paid over £300 for that info ;)</div>
			
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and also continuity of earth bond as minimum</div>

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			<dc:creator>nutsy</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Shower "problem"......]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:48:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>my showers white with grey buttons.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>my showers white with grey buttons.</div>

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			<dc:creator>bengie</dc:creator>
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			<title>Changing 2 way lighting to Intermediate</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:02:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[It is you and KME's Guinness. ;)]]></description>
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			<title>CXT/GXD SY Cable Glands</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:32:45 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>It depends on the job for me, sorry! 
Sometimes, pigtails out, sometimes in, somtimes fully assembled then witl locknut inside etc. 
Room is a big...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>It depends on the job for me, sorry!<br />
Sometimes, pigtails out, sometimes in, somtimes fully assembled then witl locknut inside etc.<br />
Room is a big factor with these glands as they protrude a long way into enclosures.</div>

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			<title>Outside PIR light - Wiring</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:06:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>that would be used with an ovverride switch making the light being able to be used when ever you want ;)</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>that would be used with an ovverride switch making the light being able to be used when ever you want ;)</div>

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			<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
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			<title>possible asbestos dust contact</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:35:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>---Quote (Originally by steptoe)--- 
can I just ask how many of us has drilled for a downlight in artex? 
if it was artexed before 2000 then it was...</description>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">can I just ask how many of us has drilled for a downlight in artex?<br />
if it was artexed before 2000 then it was probably containing asbestos.<br />
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I really dread to think of the amount of artex and various other assy boards I have drilled through in my lifetime thus far.</div>
			
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</div>its in just about anything you can think of. wallpaper, floor tiles, pipe lagging. unfortunately, no amount of legislation or elf n safety will stop all exposure to it (still reduce it though)</div>

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