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  3. Tony S

    UPS , Shutters connection

    Talk to your local fire prevention officer. A UPS is fallible, I’ve had a couple fail on critical systems. In each case they had been sat there for years and never had to kick in until needed, then they fell flat on their face. All we lost was data, you’re talking about life.
  4. Evans Electric

    UPS , Shutters connection

    Take your point Andy , I'm thinking in terms of a must have , fail safe release mechanical . Isn't it a requirement for double glazing to include a fire escape window ..type thing.
  5. Andy™

    UPS , Shutters connection

    shutters dont have a 'safe release method' for the simple reason of they dont need it. they are not intended to be used on fire exits etc other than security when the building is unoccupied. what the OP is wanting to do on his hous it not normal... if it means he cooks in it then thats his problem for not having alternative means of escape that can be opened easily. never rely on a UPS working if there is a fire and hoping for the best
  6. Evans Electric

    UPS , Shutters connection

    Not familiar with NEC . It is expected that any NEW circuit is notified to Local Building Control which means you have to use a registered electrician or ask Building Control to certify it or like most people , just do it . I am surprised the shutters do not have a safe release method in case of fire without all the UPS stuff . With your system , if you burn the toast , all the shutters will go up .
  7. Evans Electric

    Anyone in London ...Blue Duck ??

    See I knew I was descended from the gentry .
  8. Andy™

    UPS , Shutters connection

    in my case yes, the over ride is often on the inside. if the power fails and the shutter is down and your outside, you need to remove signage or pop the guides off etc to get in
  9. roys

    UPS , Shutters connection

    So unless it is a cheap thing is there any need for a UPS if there is a mechanical override?
  10. Andy™

    UPS , Shutters connection

    most motor have a manual override. you have to turn it. some cheaper tubular motors dont though
  11. kerching

    Exit Poll

    Yeah but she was good in the Krankies.........however I believe there was ( Krankies based, not the ginger than ginger dwarfette) an issue exposed in the News of the World regarding slightly dodgy nocturnal preferences and delectation ..
  12. Sharpend

    Exit Poll

    That will be the next hot potato Dave, a fishy woman who isn’t a dictator or communist but is insistent in independence, I’m just waiting for her to paint her face with the blue and white cross and shout You’ll never take our freedom !!!
  13. ProDave

    Exit Poll

    The trouble with "wish I bought yesterday" was you didn't now the result yesterday. But serious question, is the stock market now going to rally? I have a small SIPP that has been sitting as cash for the last 2 years now. FTSE100 was at 7200 when I liquidated it to transfer pension provider. All that time I have looked, and not felt confident to invest it, it's been the longest period for some time without a crash. In that time the FTSE has been up a bit and down a bit from the 7200 that I sold at. If I believed it was now due for a decent run I might re invest it. A few other random thoughts. Yesterdays vote was a resounding approval of "get brexit done" and a resounding rejection of "second vote or cancel article 50" Jeremy Corbyn needs to the have the decency to admit he is unelectable, and stand aside so Labour might be electable at the next GE. We need an electable oppositon to keep things in check The Fishy woman up here is going to be spitting feathers for another Scottish independence vote, and (if he is true to his word) Boris will say no. It could get interesting.
  14. Tony S

    Exit Poll

    Precious metals went berserk but are settling down now. Pity I hadn’t the cash to buy yesterday.
  15. kerching

    Exit Poll

    I hope she didn't count her own votes one two three eleventy twenty one million i won
  16. poni

    Anyone in London ...Blue Duck ??

    all grand places to live in their time, most coming back due to gentrifying now lots of £1000000+ houses
  17. roys

    UPS , Shutters connection

    Not familiar with domestic internal window shutters, can they be mechanically overridden by pulling say the red tab like you have on electric garage doors?
  18. Andy™

    UPS , Shutters connection

    UPS will work on shutters, fit them often enough you cannot rely on them opening on UPS in an emergenc. you must ensure you have other means of escape
  19. kat14allegro

    UPS , Shutters connection

    Hi again and thank you for your quick response. I'm in the UK, apologies for using terms "Ground" , although I do know that UK is using term "Earth " , I use both. Will stick to "Earth" from now on And correct , the shutters are for windows , not for a garage doors , there are many benefits of having domestic window shutters in your homes( security , better insulation both in Summer and in the Winter , noise reduction) , although domestic shutters are not very popular in the UK. I can’t use mechanical backup , it’s advised( not forbidden) not to install outside shutters due to evacuation during fire, this is why shutters are electric with additional UPS back up. Shutters will communicate with Smoke detectors via CLU , as soon as smoke is detected , all shutter will open automatically, If there is a power cut , shutters will open automatically. Please let me know if you think that I am missing something. Do I need any NEC cert for this kind of installation ? Best,
  20. binky

    Exit Poll

    not as barmy as you might think - have a read. Most of his plans were longer term, such as the 4 day week IF we improve productivity, so not that likely to happen, but what is worrying is what Boris's current plans do to the economy .https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14615
  21. Murdoch

    Exit Poll

    I began to think they were making more and more "stupid" policies, deliberately so they would lose
  22. Evans Electric

    Exit Poll

    Well that "Free broadband for all" was ridiculous . I was waiting to ask BT when will they stop billing me . And then all the other providers lose their income .
  23. Sharpend

    Exit Poll

    Corbyn is the most indecisive person I know!
  24. Murdoch

    Exit Poll

    Not sure it was his character ........... more their incoherent barmy spend, spend, spend policies
  25. Evans Electric

    UPS , Shutters connection

    It looks correct , not sure you need the loop out to the other device . Your reference to "ground " makes us think you are in the U.S as we say "Earth" here.
  26. binky

    Exit Poll

    so here starts the years of trade deals. I'm not surprised Corbyn got pasted after all the character assasination on social media, but I was a bit surprised by the keeness of northern seats to leave the EU still. Glad to see Swinson is gone, just couldn't take to her at all, shame Abbott still has a seat.
  27. Evans Electric

    UPS , Shutters connection

    Are you in the U.S ? This is a UK Forum although you are most welcome . It sounds like you are fitting shutters to your windows .
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