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  1. 5 points
    Not original, I found it elsewhere, but SO relevant: An interesting (fictional) tale, a little too close to the truth, I think. The Story Of An Ant Every day, an ant arrives at work very early and starts work immediately. She produces a lot and is very happy. The Chief, a Lion was surprised to see the ant working without supervision. So the Lion thought that if the ant produces so much without supervision, how much more would the ant produce if supervised. So he recruited a Cockroach, who had extensive experience as a supervisor and was excellent at writing reports. The Cockroaches first idea was to set up a "clocking in" system, he also needed a secretary to assist him with writing and filing reports. He then recruited a Spider to manage the archives and monitor all phone conversations. The Lion was delighted with the Cockroaches reports and asked him to produce graphs of production rates and to analyse trends, so he could use them for presentations at Board meetings. This meant that the Cockroach had to buy a new computer, laser printer and ........recruited a Fly to manage the I.T dept. The Ant who had once been so productive and relaxed, hated this new plethora of paperwork and meetings, which now took up most of her time ..... The Lion came to the decision it was high time he nominated someone to take charge of the dept. where the ant worked. The position was given to a Cicada who's first decision was to buy a new carpet and an ergonomic chair, for his office. ToThe new person, the Cicada needed a new computer and a personal assistant, who he brought from his previous dept., to help him prepare a work and Budget Control Strategic Optimisation Plan. It was at this time that the Cicada convinced his boss the Lion, of the absolute necessity to start a climatic study of the environment. Having reviewed the charges for running the Ants dept., the Lion found out that production was far less than before. So he recruited Owl, a prestigious and renowned consultant, to carry out an audit and put forward suggestions. The Owl spent three months in the dept and came up with an enormous report in several volumes, that concluded the dept. was over staffed. Guess who the Lion fires first. . . . . . Yes, the ant because it showed "LACK OF MOTIVATION AND HAD A NEGATIVE ATTITUDE." And this is why we have, over the years, added over 200,000 new government employees, and no one can explain why we are still in a recession. It's not a good time to be an ant. And...... That's why I am SOOO thankful to be RETIRED!, Just keep sending my pension.
  2. 2 points
    just RCD it if its easier. might not need it, but nothing to say you cant have it
  3. 2 points
    One of my biggest clients held a management meeting every Monday morning at 0900......tea, coffee, biccies etc. It could go on for hours. one day the chairman called me in as they had lost a major client and needed to,do,some cost/energy cutting my first suggestion was to put the NS heaters on a timer so they did not warm up on a Friday and Saturday night. This was linked to an IMI Pactrol system....saved a fortune second suggestion was to move the Monday morning meetings to Fridays at 1600, subsequently the meetings usually lasted about 30 mins or so and I got a nice bung for the suggestions
  4. 2 points
    Doc I have just taken a picture of the IET/IEE. NICEIC/NAPPITT/ New Regs book every year committee Gravy Train ....it was passing through the Midlands today .
  5. 1 point
    I don't think anyone is trying to be unhelpful Dave, but it's not possible to deduce how it's wired from the information available. If it was me, I would get a piece of paper and sketch out what is there, then by testing and examination work out what the interconnections are. Thoughts. - 1 There are other ways of two way switching than three strappers; i.e. two strappers, feed to one "c" and load to the other. 2 You don't have enough "spare" cores, (your designation) for a two way switch downstairs. Here is a big clue. 3 Where are the live feeds? Is upstairs and down separate or on the same MCB? 4 Look at the cable groups into the boxes. ie which reds and blacks are a cable,? -might help deduce their destination. At the end of the day get a long fly lead and do it by continuity testing to light points, and switches. Just hope there are no hidden junction boxes!
  6. 1 point
    Perhaps Dave you could give us an introduction to who you are and what your skill set is, this would in turn help us decide the best course of advice for you. I’m sure you’ll understand, that electricity is not something that should be played with as it is often called the no smell unseen killer and it is with this in mind that we, whilst sharing our knowledge must be sure that we are not endangering the public/other users who perhaps are not competent to interfere with all things electrical, thus a referral to a professional is the best advice. So a little intro of your own would help us help you correctly.
  7. 1 point
    i did give you advice. exactly the same as i would do if it was my job, trace what wires go where, then figure out how they should be connected, then connect them or did you want a 'connect blue to L1, red to L3? even though im not here and there is no standard colour code?
  8. 1 point
    well thats going to be fun... going to have to trace out what wires go there then figure out how they should switch and where the links need to be... probably best getting someone in who know what they are doing... sounds like aDIYer has tried and failed and now its the handymans turn, whist charging the customer for his electrical skills is asking people for advice on a forum?
  9. 1 point
    In a very few words, and a relatively short clip from an interview, that old rocker Roger Daltrey actually summarises a fundamental problem in a nutshell. We don't dislike, Europe or Europeans, but the whole Brussels malarkey with "far to many people on far to many gravy trains soaking us dry" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45890756/roger-daltrey-brexit-won-t-harm-touring-bands What else is there to add to that? Could almost be applied to the Electrical industry and BS7671 amendments as well. Plus the NHS and the Rail network. It is a sort of one-size-fits-all evaluation, Overcrowded Gravy Trains! Doc H.
  10. 1 point
    I believe it will be a requirement in amd1 18hth edition and NICEIC will be offering a course on its use
  11. 1 point
    Tips and tricks section?
  12. 1 point
    Bit late now but on 'projects' oversized ducting (big enough to add 1 or two mini-ducts for low voltage) is almost always a good investment. You think you've done the job now then someone says why not run ethernet down there . . oh and an extension to the front doorbell . . oh and an alarm cable . . . oh and a CCTV camera . . then someone says we need bigger cable for the new sauna heater . .
  13. 1 point
    A fuse wire won't blow when you get a shock ...thats one of the main reasons they are not used anymore . They'll blow on a dead short or if the circuit is overloaded they might blow after a few hours , just before the wiring melts RCD's are the lifesavers . Your landlord , on being told someone has received an electric shock immediately thinks of the cost of sending an electrician .....he should be thinking someone could be killed in my property , its my responsibility to ensure it is safe , the bloke is a tosser. What does he do if you said your kids were in hospital suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning from a faulty gas boiler .....Oh I'll charge you for a fitter to call!!!! Your installation is in effect ... out of date by about 40 odd years & four editions of the Regs I should think ...specially as its a rented property . All socket circuits on the current Regs should be protected by an RCD ...in fact that usually applies to every circuit for various reasons . They would throw the book at this guy in Scotland . Was the worktop flooded and the kettle base electrics saturated ?
  14. 1 point
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  15. 1 point
    been getting loads of those lately, but none with a phone number...
  16. 1 point
    Ahh brilliant thank you so much guys much appreciated 🙏🏼
  17. 1 point
    Carp lyrics but 10 out of 10 for the sentiment.
  18. 1 point
    I started with the 13th in force ... employed back then ...... the 14th seemed to creep in un-noticed , we eventually bought the Guide to the Regs . First full regs book I owned was the 15th ... we formed Complete Electrical Services then but none of us went back to college for it . The 16th I look on as the "Gravy Train " pulling out of the station and building up steam as it leaves the Toll Gate on the Rock Island Line . The 17th saw it rattling over the gaps ..."Sausage & chips ..sausage & chips " powered by steam & funded by Sparky's cash . The 18th and the "Gravy Train" hits the flatlands of Illinois with the throttle fully open , and she's heading for glory with her bullion cars loaded with Sparky's cash !!! Theres a song there somewhere .... She pulled into Birmingham one cold December day As she pulled into the station you could hear all the Sparkys say That train is full of Regs books , it's long and its tall And we're spendin' a bleedin' fortune on that Gravy Train cannonball . Four chords & it's a folk song . As employees all we ever bought were these :-
  19. 1 point
    For my money, the greatest concern would be the compatibility of the steel armour wire with the earth terminals, for making a permanent connection. Normal screw terminals are designed for plain copper or tinned copper wire, which compacts and flows to form a gas-tight metal-to-metal interface with the terminal. The steel armour is much more rigid and may not come to rest in a compact enough formation in the terminal to prevent oxidation and/or loosening in the future. The design of an SWA gland provides multiple independent contact points on the surface of the brass cone that can deform slightly into contact with each strand, whereas a plain screw terminal has only the end of the screw. A cage clamp does not have any points of very high pressure as it presents flat surfaces to the cables being clamped. I wonder whether the makers of the terminals would have sanctioned their use with galvanised steel wire?
  20. 1 point
    Ah the world of the upper clarsses , swilling champagne as they knock out another control panel while the butler parsses the tools .
  21. 1 point
    I just charge business use of my vehicle to my sole trader business at 45p per mile (I must check or someone can advise the hmrc's rate has increased) It's so simple from an accounting point of view
  22. 1 point
    Luckily mine has only ever been for business use, however HMRC did cock up a few months ago and put me on 50% tax rate as apparently I had a van for personal use, they were swiftly educated and luckily I got my over payment back the next month.
  23. 1 point
    Looks like a control for a hoist or overhead crane, or anything else than has a few buttons and an emergency stop.
  24. 1 point
    You can create "false" phases with capacitors, but you need a box full to get the right one for the load, and the two will be different to allow the correct phase delay (read create the rotation), and this is pretty much load dependent, so the caps would need changing for various loads, and it's a trial and error job to find which ones are the right ones, hence you needing a bucket full of them. You might be able to swap the motors from delta to star and run them on a 1ph to 3ph VSD, but that would need major panel rework. If you really need 3ph to run the pumps quick a generator may be your best bet.
  25. 1 point
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