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Downlight Hoods


sprocketflup

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Customer has specified Fire hoods for the downlights in his rewire, Ive never bought one but have worked on a few different types.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for hoods that aren't to blooming fiddly to install?

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Let the customer fit them...that way it will be perfect!

Or.....let customer buy them, then you charge a good extra for fitting them?

Never used them myself so I feel qualified to comment

Just saying

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Fire hoods are a bit old hat.... ;)

I'd just get the "can" downlighters with them built in :)

Or... LED (Click Inceptor)

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Fire Hoods have been known to almost start fires, they are the devils work.

Safer without if you ask me.

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Customer wants, customer gets, that's how they stay customers. This one is spending well with me so id like to keep him happy.

 

Anyone?

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Can you not educate him on the benefits of the self contained or LED downlights?

I fitted some years ago,,,, they're a right pain to get sealed with the cable feeding through them

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Noz, you must have had customers like this one, the downlights I'm installing are LED, he still wants hoods. :)

Like I said, hes spending well, I did say he doesn't need them but he wants them anyway.

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I tried fitting "hoods " once ..they are the work of Beelzeebub .        I always  fit  fire rated " Cans"  C/w LED  lamps .  Builder is instructed NOT to cover them . 

Whoever follows after we're gone ...I have no control over .  Those greater than I should educate idiot lagging compnies about downlights ...but that will never happen .

 

I wish you the best of luck with the hoods  Sprocket :(     They're about £11 ea  last ones I looked at . :o

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Are they in a loft Sprocket ?      Theres a metal cover that fits over the joists for up there , carries the lagging over the top .

 

Fitting hoods into a floor space is a pain ,   you'll just have to go for it to keep him happy .    

 

I had a customer like him once who insisted on the  board  upgrade being a BS 3036  board , this was about 2 yrs ago ...he was a  Railways engineer of some sort ..... convinced him in the end with a email from wholesaler saying they were unable to source one .   

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The property is a bungalow, there is 2 layers of Kingspan in the loft everywhere. Ive cut my downlight holes in the plasterboard and have then followed those with a long drill bit to get the centre of the hole in the top layer of kingspan. Ill be using a bigger hole cutter to drill downwards and then installing the hoods.

 

I cant see it being too much of a prob, but have to find hoods that aren't going to be a total PITA to fit

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You can get a 'standoff' that fixes to the top of the can to prevent insulation touching. Think it's on the aurora lights.

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Could try these ;)

http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/flower-pot---15cm-157670

a more serious suggestion :)

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Lighting_Menu_Index/Lighting_Downlights_Index/Fire_Cover_Downlight/index.html

from the duck who can't use normal plasterboard to cover holes in a ceiling but has to use fireproof plasterboard coz the surveyor says so! :(

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The property is a bungalow, there is 2 layers of Kingspan in the loft everywhere. Ive cut my downlight holes in the plasterboard and have then followed those with a long drill bit to get the centre of the hole in the top layer of kingspan. Ill be using a bigger hole cutter to drill downwards and then installing the hoods.

 

I cant see it being too much of a prob, but have to find hoods that aren't going to be a total PITA to fit

As you're fitting them from above you probably be OK with any  old rubbish .

I'd rather clear a space round them  in the loft TBH ....but the customer wants them so be it .

 

 

 

Just to expand this thread .............more than once I've found downlights drilled & chiseled into floor joists before now . 

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If you are working from above metal box covers such as http://www.screwfix.com/p/halolite-downlight-insulation-guard-340mm/84802  or  http://www.screwfix.com/p/halolite-downlight-insulation-guard-220mm/97932 are more robust than hoods.

 

Doc H.

I have used loads of these, good solution

Warning.....wear gloves!....the edges are sharper than a Mother in Law's tongue

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Hey what do you know about my MIL?

Just..........Mis reading!

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You may be breaching the building regs by cutting holes through the insulation ?

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Interesting one that Slips, ran it past the builder today and he didn't think so.

 

ps. what are you doing on here at 3.40am??

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Jeez you're brave monkey, trusting a builder whatever next!

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I know round my way they are hot (pardon the pun) on insulation levels when fitting downlights in ceilings below flat roofs.

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It pains me when people are willing to compromise the insulation by cutting bloody great holes in it, for the sake of vanity and a particular type of light fitting that was trendy.

 

IMHO a far far better solution is the modern alternative of flat panel LED light fittings that sit flush and give a very good light without compromising the insulation.

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