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After being part of a few big schemes and seeing the DNO reports as to allowed output sizes on property lists I have been thinking....... 'Why can't we put 4kWp on all houses?'.

It can't be down to cable size as surely each house is cabled up to be able to draw more than 16a. So, if 16a can go down the cable in one direction, why not the other??

Same for distribution equipment.....

Only thing I can think of is network stability.

Answers on a postcard please

 
Diversity?

"The network can cope"?

What if EVERY house started consuming 4KW all at the same time for all of the afternoon. Would the network cope? or is diversity their friend?

 
they only like to back-feed the local trannies by 25% and if whole estates are solared, it back-feeds too much. Think crappy Chinese inverter outputs don't help. The network is old, under-invested and will no doubt fail in a miserable way sometime soonish

 
Thanks for the answers, pretty I was thinking it must be along those line.....

Because it's all about them volts, them volts, Not power... (Sang in the style of 'it's all about that Bass')

 
Canoeboy said:
If the DNO were like Germany's utility companies then all their LV/HV Transformers would have on-load tap changers on them, this means as the solar pushes the voltage up the taps switch on load to stop the effect of a higher voltage

However if you take a look at all the DNO equipment (inc the new stuff fitted) its all pre-war design in that they do not spend more than they possibly can so the shareholders get their massive cut at the end of the year

And remember why should most DNOs pump money into this country and not do it on the cheap - bear in mind the country of shareholders they answer to sometimes isn't britian - cos we sold it all........

Its a voltage thing Barx, see above, its all about money.........
there are aspects of life that would definetly benefit from decent centralised state control, but then you do all keep voting Tory whose whole philospophy is to sell everything off and let 'free market forces' take control which means a race to the bottom. And I see they want to sell Network Rail off again, remember the deaths that resulted last time?

 
there are aspects of life that would definetly benefit from decent centralised state control, but then you do all keep voting Tory whose whole philospophy is to sell everything off and let 'free market forces' take control which means a race to the bottom. And I see they want to sell Network Rail off again, remember the deaths that resulted last time?
You know what, it's a lot better than the ******* unions that tried to bring this country to its knees. 

You keep voting for your blind labour if you want,

But, remember this, you wouldn't have your own business under a socialist state, that was a capitalist state that allowed that,

So don't be a plastic socialist.

 
Steps, do please pay attention, I don't vote labour, I vote anti-tory. Mostly I don't actually think any party is really worth voting for, so I vote against the party that in my opinion does me/ the UK, the most harm. That happens to be the Tories at the moment. IMHO they are very good at convincing people, through a mostly right-wing press, that they want to be rich, when their real agenda is to make the rich richer, hence the expanding wealth gap between the rich and the poor. When it comes to being blind, your hatred of labour seems quite extreme, but that's your choice.

I actually don't like extremes of anything other than getting drunk, and maybe a bit of speeding. I don't like the Torys for being extreme right wing capitalists and I certainly don't like full on socialism. But what I really don't like is dogma wasting my money. The Tory party follows a capiatlist agenda of 'free market enterprise' that is forcing the country to its knees through stupidity, same as the trade unions did with their own brand of stupidity. Unions are basically gone, capitalism is alive an well. If you look at the current policies they might as well have been written by Thatcher, talk about going backwards! A little extra tax would be cheaper to me, and probably everyone else than paying out cash to compensate for dogmatic practices of driving everything to the lowest, cheapest option, which you all keep moaning about. An example of that was in my posting about potholes, scrimping £1billion from the budget for roads costs £2.8billion in additional accidents, (and the deaths of many people) please tell me how that isn't dumb dogma?

Now the Tories are looking to privatise Network Rail, which if I remember rightly, was re-nationalised after a series of terrible train crashes. Potters Bar particulalry stands out as it was caused by poor maintenace resulting from issueing the contract to the lowest bidder. I don't want to see that crap ever again.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01647/potters-1_1647555c.jpg

As for socialism, which country has the most millionares, a centralised state, more small businesses than any other country, can get things done quickly..........China. Would I want to live under that particular regime, NO, but can we learn something from it, YES.

Somewhere between the 2 extremes is where we actually need to be. To me the basic infrastructure of the UK should be under state control, perhaps as a 'Not for Profit' business, but certainly not owned by foreign countries / businesses to extract money from the UK. As we all seem to agree Germany is a model worthy of praise, perhaps we should do it their way???

 
What makes me laugh is people against the Tory government think their party would do the things they are not happy with different, wrong they would exactly the same regarding the key factors that need to be controlled, or else the country would sink.

However what all the other parties would do is spend, spend, spend to impress those that voted for them, just like labour do every time they get in, then when the bubble bursts a Tory government steps in to get us back on track.

All this rubbish about the Tories are about the rich getting richer is total b******s snd typical of anti Tory voters, because that's all they believe in.

Look at Cyprus Airways, government run, over manned with over paid pilots and costing their tax payers millions and never making ends meet so boom, gone, now they are all unemployed and thats what happens when governments run businesses, people that work for them think they are owed a living for doing very little but expecting high grades of pay.

 
it is a well documented fact that the wealth gap is widening in this country Steve, and has been for some time, please read the article below from the Torygraph. I could use others but as this is basically a right wing paper it can't be ignored. Wealth up 100% in ten years. Who's talking ballcocks now Steve

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11578214/Inequality-is-ruining-Britain-so-why-arent-we-talking-about-it-more.html

The last bubble that burst was directly the result of greedy capitialsim ie the banking system. Nothing to do with the previous Labour governments spending, they were spending in line with tax revenue which was unfortunately based on taxation from the banking system. My problem with the Tory party is that want to dismantle the state, take it back to bare bones, think Victorian era. Which I don't totally disagree with, but the swingeing cuts now proposed will have serious impacts on society. For instance, in my local council, the proposed cuts will result in about 1000 job losses, or about 30% of the workforce. All non-essential services will be removed, stuff like the youth working team  that run the youth clubs will be removed this year. 'So what' I hear you cry, These services help young people develop in to upstanding members of society (or at least keep them out of jail) and it has been costed that they reduce crime to a value far greater than they cost. The youth workers are on minimum wage incidentally, and many are part time. The resulting increase in crime will cost you more than keeping them open. Stupid dogma at work.

Ask yourself this Steve, has the current government shut down the tax loopholes yet? Nope. And they've had 6 years to do that so far.

Do you want councils to chase down and bang up the criminal gangs of child abusers? I'm assuming the answer is Yes, yet the swingeing cuts will remove the trained Social Work staff who do that work and persue these sick bastards, so the children will be fu*ked literally and metaphorically. Is that what you want Steve? All in the name of reducing taxes a few pence?

Even the IMF think the slash and cut regime is misguided, it undermines confidence which results in loss of business and becomes a self perpetuating downward spiral.

Cyprus airlines was never going to work in this day and age, it was far too small. Airtravel is not an essential part of infrastruture, the state should not be involved. The only bloated state instituitions left in the UK seem to be in the Civil Service (ie central government), Westminster and marvellous places like the EU. Ultimately what you and I really want is efficient good services at reasonable cost.

 
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sorry Barx, but i get fed up with people moaning about the state of the country but still voting in the same government. We have basically had 30 years of the same policies, even the last Labour goverment was Tory-light, and the country hasn't got better. 30 years is firkin long time to keep making the same mistakes, but it seems to suite the political elite and the wealthy types for the country to remain on the same course. So call me slightly strange bit something needs to change, and I wish to promote discussion.

 
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a good thing to change would be for the government to stop getting into wars it has no business in,

the last war we had any business in was the Falklands, the one that labour wouldnt have fought in,

but then they throw our money at loads of other illegal wars that are endless and we have no business being in,

when is Mr blair and his country running wife going to be held to account for murder of many British citizens for sending them to the slaughter in an illegal pipe dreamt war?

 
for once we agree though I'm not sure how a war is ever legal??  Blair sucking up to Bush was damn right silly. British PMs seem to like sucking up to the USA for reasons I don't qute understand. Not really sure what wandering around the world picking fights really does for the UK anyway. Don't really see any point in Trident either, we keep telling other countries they don't need nuclear, so should lead by example. It's a ruddy expensive weapon that if we were ever to use, the world would probably be dead anyway...The money could then be spent on financing  a proper armed forces and do useful things like patrol the international waters against piracy ,fight cyber war, and defend against Russia

 
for once we agree though I'm not sure how a war is ever legal??  Blair sucking up to Bush was damn right silly. British PMs seem to like sucking up to the USA for reasons I don't qute understand. Not really sure what wandering around the world picking fights really does for the UK anyway. Don't really see any point in Trident either, we keep telling other countries they don't need nuclear, so should lead by example. It's a ruddy expensive weapon that if we were ever to use, the world would probably be dead anyway...The money could then be spent on financing  a proper armed forces and do useful things like patrol the international waters against piracy ,fight cyber war, and defend against Russia
I dont think Russia is the problem these days,

its more likely an islamic state or an illegal zionist one that is likely to unleash massive terror.

 

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