Through crimps, are they that bad?

Hi All,

all of my apprenticeship i was told through crimps were a big nono!

as time has gone on and ive started to think for myself im starting to think they aren't that bad.

i just want to make sure its not just my standards dropping! lol

i might need to replace a flush fit socket with a surface mount and i will almost certainly need the cables to be longer, are through crimps the way forward or would you use wago's?

Nothing wrong with crimps (or wagos for that matter).

The Boys

Through crimps are perfectly acceptable even in a non-accessible location. Good practice to heat shrink over the top or use the one with heat shrink built in!

Give it a tug to test it! Will be fine. No room in a back box for Wago's!

Nothing wrong with them, I personally, will use them. I never get any problem with loose connections either.

I use crimps and heat shrink a lot mate, just take your meter readings before and after so that you know there joined correctly and job done.

cool! i will order up some crimps and a few wagos aswell. Cheers for the advice all!

Jibspark, its another of those "Myths of the Trade" . I remember the same thing as an apprentice, " Its really bad to do joints" until a sparky pointed out that the whole distribution network is full of joints, in fact is based on jointing.

I think some of these things come from one man's erronious opinion and spreads through a firm till everyone is thinking it instead of thinking for themselves.

The firm my colleague worked for decided you couldn't have a pendant in a kitchen, had to be a batten holder or whatever, but never a pendant . Years later he can't get it out of his head , I've said show me the Reg but there never was one.

Another one was " You must put the cooker and shower fuse/MCB next to the main switch in a consumer unit" Another "Myth of the Trade" load of ballcocks!!

lol very good points!

ive just had a look at the price of a full wago kit!!! i nearly died!

if applied correctly, then a crimp is a very good connection. they wouldnt use them all over the national grid network if they were no good

lol very good points!ive just had a look at the price of a full wago kit!!! i nearly died!

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Buy some of the packs, if you start to use them more and more then maybe go for the bulk pack, remember it's a trade off with time spent with alternate fixings

PS don't forget your fees should cover all parts used on the job, just because a Wago is only a few pence doesn't mean that you don't add

i think your right, i will just buy a couple of packs for now. no way i can afford a bulk kit at the mo!

Do a search on the forum Jib, I have have supplied links to the cheaper version and are they are great IMHO.

do crimps have current ratings?

do crimps have current ratings?

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yes

yes

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Give us one of your famous links then Patch

CPC give current ratings but there site is down for maintanance

SF say Red 0.5mm-1.5mm

CPC's ratings (from my catalouge) Yellow 49A Blue 27A Red 19A

swa link similar rating to patches.

http://www.s-w-a.co.uk/page3/page4/assets/001-ring%20&%20fork_1.pdf

CPC's ratings (from my catalouge) Yellow 49A Blue 27A Red 19A

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They are all rated higher than the cables that will fit in them - that'll do for me!Guiness Drink

They are all rated higher than the cables that will fit in them - that'll do for me!Guiness Drink

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Just make sure you use a decent rachet crimping tool not one that is hand tightned if you know what I mean.

Batty