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Hefferl

Does anyone have an unwanted, undamaged front cover for an MK SENTRY DUAL RCD SPLIT LOAD 10 WAY CONSUMER UNIT- PLASTIC like below please??

 

My rental just received an Unstiafactory EICR ........

 

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Murdoch

A C2 for that

 

Not sure I agree with your so called inspector

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Sharpend

Perhaps he shouldn’t have broke it?!

how does that make it a C2? No access to live parts without removing the actual cover? 
I really do sit back in amazement of how little knowledge and understanding I have. 

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Hefferl

I wonder does this explain it?

 

· Supply and upgrade consumer unit with RCBO’S
· Supply and fit new 100 amp isolation switch for cut off
· Supply and fit new bathroom IP rated light
· Supply and fit new pendant light
· Supply and fit a new double socket
· Go through boiler feed, add additional fuse spur for isolation
· Take off trunking above DB area
· Supply and fit new trunking
· Re connect all circuits
· Test
· Provide new EICR
· Clear all rubbish

TOTAL INCLUDING VAT: £980.25

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Onoff

I might have one... seriously. 

 

How does £982.25 sound? 😂

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Hefferl

Ouch!!!

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binky

another £980 board change ! :shakehead

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Murdoch
4 hours ago, Hefferl said:

I wonder does this explain it?

 

· Supply and upgrade consumer unit with RCBO’S
· Supply and fit new 100 amp isolation switch for cut off
· Supply and fit new bathroom IP rated light
· Supply and fit new pendant light
· Supply and fit a new double socket
· Go through boiler feed, add additional fuse spur for isolation
· Take off trunking above DB area
· Supply and fit new trunking
· Re connect all circuits
· Test
· Provide new EICR
· Clear all rubbish

TOTAL INCLUDING VAT: £980.25

 

That's rather more than a broken cover!

 

And the quote needs to confirm the EIC and Part P too

 

OP - why can't you do some or all of this?

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Onoff
43 minutes ago, Hefferl said:

Ouch!!!

 

I will look. So far it's Hager, Hager, Volex, Eaton, Eaton, Merlin....I really must put them all in one place!

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Hefferl
25 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

 

That's rather more than a broken cover!

 

And the quote needs to confirm the EIC and Part P too

 

OP - why can't you do some or all of this?

 

In reality, it is only slightly more than a broken cover  - broken cover is not a C2 to me -  the quote is deliberately verbose to try to  justify ££££ , but nothing even nearly approaching £1K and does not justify a new CU - i will do all the remedials - I opted not to do the EICR because I wanted to be beyond reproach being the landlord......

 

13 minutes ago, Onoff said:

 

I will look. So far it's Hager, Hager, Volex, Eaton, Eaton, Merlin....I really must put them all in one place!

 

It's ok, i've found a new complete board < £50 and I'll put all the MCBs, RCDs into stock...

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Murdoch

whats the boiler isolator about too?

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Hefferl
37 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

whats the boiler isolator about too?

 

The boiler is downstairs in the kitchen. Heating supply (FCU 3A) is upstairs in airing cupboard along with heating controls etc. There is then a single pattress and single blank adjacent to boiler just to connect boiler flex to provide power to boiler, so perhaps it could be argued that another isolator local to boiler is required...

 

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Murdoch
1 minute ago, Hefferl said:

 

The boiler is downstairs in the kitchen. Heating supply (FCU 3A) is upstairs in airing cupboard along with heating controls etc. There is then a single pattress and single blank adjacent to boiler just to connect boiler flex to provide power to boiler, so perhaps it could be argued that another isolator local to boiler is required...

 

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definitely not a C2, maybe just a comment on the cert to confirm where the boiler isolator is

 

i think you need a 2nd EICR because it’s tricky to agree with what you’ve expanded on so far

 

sure the broken socket and lack of IP light in the bathroom make sense ....

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Hefferl
1 minute ago, Murdoch said:


 

definitely not a C2, maybe just a comment on the cert to confirm where the boiler isolator is

 

i think you need a 2nd EICR because it’s tricky to agree with what you’ve expanded on so far

 

sure the broken socket and lack of IP light in the bathroom make sense ....

 

Without doubt and simple to remedy....

 

I think its probably more pragmatic/cheaper to undertake and document remedials and append to original EICR, rather than shell out for another EICR and all the BS that will probably produce.....

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Murdoch
2 minutes ago, Hefferl said:

 

Without doubt and simple to remedy....

 

I think its probably more pragmatic/cheaper to undertake and document remedials and append to original EICR, rather than shell out for another EICR and all the BS that will probably produce.....


that’s assuming the inspector agrees he has coded things incorrectly

 

the CPS’ are ignoring this and should be stepping up to the plate with clarification

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ProDave
29 minutes ago, Murdoch said:


that’s assuming the inspector agrees he has coded things incorrectly

 

the CPS’ are ignoring this and should be stepping up to the plate with clarification

If you take your car for an MOT, the MOT tester has a manual to work from to tell him what is a pass and a fail.  We lack anything like that and it is a free for all for some to make their own decisions.

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Murdoch
17 minutes ago, ProDave said:

If you take your car for an MOT, the MOT tester has a manual to work from to tell him what is a pass and a fail.  We lack anything like that and it is a free for all for some to make their own decisions.

 

The NICEIC have done something positive and that's got their inspectors to agree to use the best practice guide codes .......... whereas NAPIT write the Codebreakers and assume that's fine 

 

This is a huge farce which will continue for some time yet

 

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Andy™

thats one expensive plastic lid....

 

ask for a reg to  go with each thing that its unsatisfactory on

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Fleeting

If you need to resort to a Guide to enable you to compile a technical Report you probably need to be looking at a different aspect to your trade.

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Murdoch
2 minutes ago, Fleeting said:

If you need to resort to a Guide to enable you to compile a technical Report you probably need to be looking at a different aspect to your trade.


don’t waste your money on the code breakers book - that is what is causing a lot of these issues

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Fleeting
3 minutes ago, Murdoch said:


don’t waste your money on the code breakers book - that is what is causing a lot of these issues

The issue is people with no experience or competence. Following any Guide no matter who produces it leads to a blind acceptance as opposed to treating each issue with knowledge and experience and with this you can provide a sound judgement. 

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Murdoch
15 minutes ago, Fleeting said:

The issue is people with no experience or competence. Following any Guide no matter who produces it leads to a blind acceptance as opposed to treating each issue with knowledge and experience and with this you can provide a sound judgement. 


not sure I agree with you.

 

prodave hit the nail on the head with his comment above.

 

The issues facing landlords is who can they trust ? And as it stands sparks are like economists, ask 10, get 15 opinions

 

what do you make of the issues outlined by the OP?

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Fleeting

Not sure how it can be compared to a car MOT I just don't see a comparison as for the consumer unit cover I thought being from a senior member it was a wind up.

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Sharpend
19 minutes ago, Fleeting said:

Not sure how it can be compared to a car MOT I just don't see a comparison as for the consumer unit cover I thought being from a senior member it was a wind up.


 Nope the Heff doesn’t do wind up! 

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Fleeting
4 minutes ago, Sharpend said:


 Nope the Heff doesn’t do wind up! 

Okay I'm none too knowledgeable of the members. I would definitely be confronting the individual who applied a C2 to that and if they cannot give a sound reason for the issue warranting urgent attention to insist on a revised Report.

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