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Whilst I was on practical training for my course a few people from other training provider were sent home as their provider had gone bust .. think it was New Career Skills. Anyone else heard about this?

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hopefully the other 5 day wonder providers will take the same route

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So not a fan then!!

What wrong with people trying to learn another trade ?? or should we all goback to working as an apprentice makeing tea and sweeping the floor for all you old hands ??

Lyngarth

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So not a fan then!!

What wrong with people trying to learn another trade ?? or should we all goback to working as an apprentice makeing tea and sweeping the floor for all you old hands ??

Lyngarth

you cannot learn enough to be a sparky in 5 days. end of.

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I do not expect great things after I finished my home learning 17th Edition for example, my goal is just to show some willingless to learn, maybe that will land me a mates job where I can get more experiance.

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5 Days ?? where does that come from ?? So far i have done 17 days hands on (not a lot I know but i'm also working along side a sparky in my own time which helps) about 300 hrs study work, enough for me to pass my 2382 with over 90% and also passed my 2377.

I know the course will not make me a spark over night but it will point me in the right direction and at least give me a good starting point as to carry on with.

So I for one think its a good way to teach people the right way of doing things, and also being taught by season sparks helps a lot also.

I also know and understand there will be many old hands out there who will always look down on the new boys/girls like something they have just stood in, but I for one am looking forward to finishing my course and going out to work.

Lyngarth

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I did my course with New career skills, down near Southampton, plus as I said I have been having a bit of on site help and work from a local sparky, mine you he's in his 50's and I'm for ever putting him right on the latest reg's !!

I did also buy a learning pack for my 2382 from HERE very good and got me up to speed.

Lyngarth

P.S good luck with yours.

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Congrats on passing.....I have also passed with new career skills recently and now loving the work and challenge. The reason I went to new career skills is because I'm now 30 and could not afford to study full time and take a pay drop due to house bills and living expensives. I looked into night school but that was out of the question because my job wasn't stable hours and could not guaranty to be finished at 6 for start off class. I do think it's a good starting block to get your foot in the door and it shows that they are commited to learn the trade because of the money it costs. I for one am going to carry on learning and get more qualifications, got the 2392 soon and hopefully other things down the line.

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I did my course with New career skills, down near Southampton, plus as I said I have been having a bit of on site help and work from a local sparky, mine you he's in his 50's and I'm for ever putting him right on the latest reg's !!

I did also buy a learning pack for my 2382 from HERE very good and got me up to speed.

Lyngarth

P.S good luck with yours.

Well done to you,we at new career skills are fine and dandy thank you we are not going bust, and we instill in to our students that this is not a 5 day quick course and that they will need to continue their education via experience long after leaving us. I have been a spark for many years and have seen good and bad throughout the industry. I would employ most of our students to do jobs that they are comfortable with. But lets face there are Sparks out there that did the conventional route that are beyond belief, I once employed someone that felt is was ok to isolate a live ciruit by touching it down to a metal gas pipe becouse he could not locate the breaker..... was he was ok to do that becouse he study for 4 yrs??????.

Anyway the whole piont of my reply was to let our students know that the company is fine and we are growing in size not closing so there must be another provider that is...ROTFWL

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I think one of the main differences between good and bad sparks is knowing when you need help/advise. Good sparks will seek help where, as in your example, bad sparks will just wing it.

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I think one of the main differences between good and bad sparks is knowing when you need help/advise. Good sparks will seek help where, as in your example, bad sparks will just wing it.

I agree 110% with that, I must admit I still have alot to learn and I would never wire anything up without being 100% positive about it. Infact in some cases that's a good thing because a spark that has been in the trade for years might take short cuts and overlook regs etc.

I have often asked for advice from this forum and even spoke to the tutors from new career skills centre after I completed the course to which I have always been given sound advice.

http://www.meadelectricalservices.co.uk/

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I worked with a time served spark, he had great knowledge but no the slightly ounce of working safe.. anyway

He was under the stairs in a house messing about with the CU and tails, the tails he had loose in his hand was live, I was working in the living room and then there was this massive BANG!!! and a very impressive white light as he had somehow managed to run this live tail down the gas pipe...!! Applaud Smiley

Apart from that I did learn lots! mainly about safe isolation...

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I agree 110% with that, I must admit I still have alot to learn and I would never wire anything up without being 100% positive about it. Infact in some cases that's a good thing because a spark that has been in the trade for years might take short cuts and overlook regs etc.

I have often asked for advice from this forum and even spoke to the tutors from new career skills centre after I completed the course to which I have always been given sound advice.

http://www.meadelectricalservices.co.uk/

I assume (from the name) that is your business you set up after passing? if so, well done!

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After some digging about on the internet I have found out the following info.

Skills centre have gone into receivership which may have effected a Southampton compay called ATL.

Please follow the link for unbiased report from the press

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/cardiff-news/2009/07/16/skills-centre-closure-down-to-recession-91466-24164929/

New career skills are unrelated to ATL or Skills centre

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I assume (from the name) that is your business you set up after passing? if so, well done!

Yeah I set it up just after I passed and started off very small and built up some confidence. I'm doing it part time at the moment but I seem to be getting more and more phone calls from customers now....hopefully I will have enough work on to go fully self employed by the beginning of next year.

http://www.meadelectricalservices.co.uk/

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Apologies for getting it wrong re new career skills. Thanks electricaltutornew for putting me right. Feel sorry for the people who are with them and hope it gets sorted through ATL at Southampton as these lot r a good bunch. matt

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Yeah I set it up just after I passed and started off very small and built up some confidence. I'm doing it part time at the moment but I seem to be getting more and more phone calls from customers now....hopefully I will have enough work on to go fully self employed by the beginning of next year.

http://www.meadelectricalservices.co.uk/

Thats very interesting, so did you also get even part p from New career skills?

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Thats very interesting, so did you also get even part p from New career skills?

Yeah, we did the eal building regs online exam aswell as the 2382, 2377 pat testing and the eal domestic installer scheme. I'm going back in the new year to do the 2392 inspection and testing.

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Very nice, I have requested my info pack so ill take a look, am i right in saying the eal domestic installer scheme is the part p pne that will let me work without having to tell anyone and will let me sign off my work also and issue a cert? I am currently doing my 2382, test next month so if all goes well that will be my next step..

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Very nice, I have requested my info pack so ill take a look, am i right in saying the eal domestic installer scheme is the part p pne that will let me work without having to tell anyone and will let me sign off my work also and issue a cert? I am currently doing my 2382, test next month so if all goes well that will be my next step..

To be able to carry out your own work without the hassel of building control notification and to be able to cert it you will need to join a part p scheme i.e elecsa, napit, nic etc. Once on the scheme you can carry out any work within the part p domestic scope. To get onto one of the providers you will need the 2382 and the eal building regs. I'm not sure if the domestic installer scheme was required but it was well worth doing. Good luck with your exam and once you pass that (which I'm sure you will) look into taking the building regs exam then you should be there :-)

for more info on elecsa, the part p scheme I'm with click on my website link below and then click the elecsa link. This will take you to the elecsa website which will explain everything you need to know

http://www.meadelectricalservices.co.uk/

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ah good stuff cheers for that, lots to keep me busy anyway. soon as I do my 2382 ill do the rest to get registered, I think ill still try and get a mates job 1st to be honest, I need to have a bit of time to get some more tools, and a van, tester, all quite a bit of cash! well worth it in the end im sure.

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What does the EAL Domestic Installer Scheme invole, I thought it was more aimed at trades that deal with electrics every now and again, like plumbers and kitchen fitters. I'm at college doing the C&G 2330 L3 is it worth doing after I have completed this course.

Tim

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What does the EAL Domestic Installer Scheme invole, I thought it was more aimed at trades that deal with electrics every now and again, like plumbers and kitchen fitters. I'm at college doing the C&G 2330 L3 is it worth doing after I have completed this course.

Tim

if you contact elecsa or nic they will tell you what you need, 2330 may be enough to join a scam.

the Domestic Installer Scheme has 2 levels, 1 for kitchen fitter and plumbers who may want to add a socket etc and 1 for Domestic Installers who want to wire a house.

I was at New career skills (with meady infact) and the quals i got from there impressed the assesser, he said i had more than enough bits of paper to join them.

There was 1 bit of confusion for me though, when i agreed to pay new career skills my money the sales man told me i could do single phase only wether domestic or comm. while on the course i discoverd that i could only do domestic wether 3 phase or single. while talking to Mr elecsa he said there is no part x,y or z for comm so i could do it as long as i follow the HSW act, well if you follow 7671 you will follow all anyway.

thanks

paul

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