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Hello all.

I shall be emigrating down-under shortly and wondered if anyone here had any info on the Australian electrics trade?

Any advice appreciated.

I've discovered jumbuck is slang for sheep courtesy of Eggheads!

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Hello all.

I shall be emigrating down-under shortly and wondered if anyone here had any info on the Australian electrics trade?

Any advice appreciated.

I've discovered jumbuck is slang for sheep courtesy of Eggheads!

they have all there 11KV feeds on the same poles as the 230/400v feeds....

i think there stuff is mostly 16/20A radials, and similar to ours (with the obvious difference in sockets)

where bouts in oz are you going to?

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Hello all.

I shall be emigrating down-under shortly and wondered if anyone here had any info on the Australian electrics trade?

Any advice appreciated.

I've discovered jumbuck is slang for sheep courtesy of Eggheads!

Firstly, congratulations on moving down under.

Secondly, the electrical installation works can only be done by registered electricians, it is strictly controlled, unlike here.

The Godfather

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I heard the same, no one does any electrical work other than licenced electricians.

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Very strict.

I did some looking into it a while back, and whilst i had 3 weeks there.

Each state/government has different rules, but you need to go on a course with the local one.

And non of these "competent person crap" your either qualified or not. and all done through government.

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I've heard you need to work under a spark for about a year before you can get a licence but it sounds like it may be good for business not having bob the builder doing the electrics?!

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check out 'Tafe' it is where u study for ur exams...

one step down from a license spark would be ur ' connect and dis-connected license'.

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How you doing Chris, have you gone down the vetassess route or TRA ???, you will need a OTSR ( this is given when you pass vetassess practical ) or ARTC ( done by TRA elec special class only paper based ). i belive that a company called Energy saftey in Oz are doing a 2 week course that is all about the AU/NZ 3000 regs and some practical to get your A licence, no one will touch you with out it ( well not well paid or legall )

Vetassess paper based assessment 04/05/09 passed

Vetassess practical 30/07/09 passed

WA state sponsorhip app 08/08/09

the whole process * up by Chris Evans immigration minister 23/09/09

Iam getting in touch with the Don for the OK to give him a visit.

Regards Luca

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Hello,

Can't tell you any certain info but my mate who is also an electrician emmigrated over there a few years ago. He had to complete a couple of courses once he got there and I think work with some one for a while before he was allowed to do any work by himself. He told me the qualifications he had over here such as 16th ed as it was at the time mean nothing to the australians, they demand you do all there own quals and prove your competence before your allowed to work. Not a bad adea if you ask me!

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evening again, vetassess must be done in the UK and passed before you can apply for a visa, when you get your visa and arrive in Oz you will need to contact the relavent state authority, you will need to get your A licence you will either an OTSR or ARTC

OTSR issued by vetassess ( general elec ), to recive this you will need to have passed the paper based assessment $600AUD, then comes the practical assessment $1600UAD, this is a full day and consists of the following 4 units

1, 18 multi choice questions ( ohms law, power calcs, 3 ph calcs, star/delta,resistors,capacitors,pf etc

2, install of 1 single skt in PVC, 1 lighting circ with 2 way sw clipped direct then in PVC, connect to CU and carrry out and record all dead test.

3, safe isolation/reconnect, this must be done as the candidate guide supplied, this is a big sticking point for alot of guys in the UK.

4, wire a DOL from scratch, you are given a board with start/stop buttons, contactor & O/L fitted, a drawing will be provided and you have to wire them in singals, when you have done this it is energised and tested ( manually no testers ), a fault will then be put on the circuit and you have to find it then repair it ( not forgetting safe isolation etc ).

After this wait 5-10 days for pass or fail all re-sits are about $1000.

You can now apply for your visa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

ARTC ( elec special class ), this is issued by TRA,this is a paper based assessment ( $350 AUD ) and alot of guys who donnt work solely on PLC drive and machinery get diverted to vetassess,you can with the ARTC go down the PEER route.PEER VEET in SA is a 2 day course with a log book you must fill in and present.On completion of this ( in SA ) and gaining your A licence you can transfer it to other states.

Due to the changes ( introduction of vetassess )that were made its still up in the air wich is the best way to go because some of the TAFES/RTO donnt recognise vetassess.

Luca

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evening again, vetassess must be done in the UK and passed before you can apply for a visa, when you get your visa and arrive in Oz you will need to contact the relavent state authority, you will need to get your A licence you will either an OTSR or ARTC

OTSR issued by vetassess ( general elec ), to recive this you will need to have passed the paper based assessment $600AUD, then comes the practical assessment $1600UAD, this is a full day and consists of the following 4 units

1, 18 multi choice questions ( ohms law, power calcs, 3 ph calcs, star/delta,resistors,capacitors,pf etc

2, install of 1 single skt in PVC, 1 lighting circ with 2 way sw clipped direct then in PVC, connect to CU and carrry out and record all dead test.

3, safe isolation/reconnect, this must be done as the candidate guide supplied, this is a big sticking point for alot of guys in the UK.

4, wire a DOL from scratch, you are given a board with start/stop buttons, contactor & O/L fitted, a drawing will be provided and you have to wire them in singals, when you have done this it is energised and tested ( manually no testers ), a fault will then be put on the circuit and you have to find it then repair it ( not forgetting safe isolation etc ).

After this wait 5-10 days for pass or fail all re-sits are about $1000.

You can now apply for your visa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

ARTC ( elec special class ), this is issued by TRA,this is a paper based assessment ( $350 AUD ) and alot of guys who donnt work solely on PLC drive and machinery get diverted to vetassess,you can with the ARTC go down the PEER route.PEER VEET in SA is a 2 day course with a log book you must fill in and present.On completion of this ( in SA ) and gaining your A licence you can transfer it to other states.

Due to the changes ( introduction of vetassess )that were made its still up in the air wich is the best way to go because some of the TAFES/RTO donnt recognise vetassess.

Luca

I'm travelling over on my girlfriend's visa which allows me to study there. Did have a brief look into vetassess but it would have taken too much time before I would have been able to apply for my own visa. Are testers supplied at the assessment or do you provide your own? The detailed list of tasks to complete is a help, thank you.

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all tools and meters/testers are supplied, all the fellas on my assessment took ther own though, you have to take your PPE. I found the process very relaxed and the assessor was very help full.Where and when are you going Chris ????, have you looked at Britishexpats.com and Pomsinoz they have some info on applying for your ARTC when on shore, I think if you go over on your chicks visa you will need to apply on shore.

all the best and G day,

Luca

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all tools and meters/testers are supplied, all the fellas on my assessment took ther own though, you have to take your PPE. I found the process very relaxed and the assessor was very help full.Where and when are you going Chris ????, have you looked at Britishexpats.com and Pomsinoz they have some info on applying for your ARTC when on shore, I think if you go over on your chicks visa you will need to apply on shore.

all the best and G day,

Luca

I will have a look at those links. I'm off to Perth, we're looking at Scarborough about 2 mins from the beach:D. Good to hear that the assessment is very relaxed, good old aussies!

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have you got your visa ??, it all changed on the 23/09/09 all hell has broken loose, the immigration minister has really ballsed up this time.

Luca

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It's going through at the moment. It's been 3 weeks so far and should be here in another few. My girl's being sponsored by her company for a 4year visa and apparently they fast track it when it's from a company. We were given a time-frame of 6-8weeks.

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Hello all.

I shall be emigrating down-under shortly and wondered if anyone here had any info on the Australian electrics trade?

Any advice appreciated.

I've discovered jumbuck is slang for sheep courtesy of Eggheads!

WOW! :o

good one Chris!!

Applaud SmileyApplaud SmileyApplaud Smiley

hope all goes well for you.Guiness Drink

When are you due to go??:|

all I can say is....

1/ Make sure you get Internet set up sharpish!

2/ Get yourself logged back on here.

3/ You can be the "OFFICIAL" forum Australia correspondent IMHO.....

I shall go and ask Admin now I think!?:|:|;)

Blushing:xApplaud SmileyApplaud SmileyApplaud Smiley

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Just waiting on the visa but looking at 2-3 weeks I guess. I will definately continue on this forum as many people before me have said...IT'S THE BEST! Guiness Drink

Keep you all updated...B-)

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All the best for the future Chris.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I was in NZ from 96-01

Same system as Aus. Radial circuits instead of rings, Lighting ccts looped round the switches with a single feed going up to the light fitting. Never ever break the neutral. Neutral and Earth bars joined in the DB and a separate earth rod (6') knocked in the ground outside. Electricians run the mains to the roadside and install the meter wiring etc but not the meters, in NZ they even have a facility for the supplier to turn off everyones immersion heater remotely to save power if theres a peak in demand.

I had to show my credentials and then sit a regs exam and do a stage 3 practical before I could be registered and get a practising licence. Then you have to do a safety refresher every 2 years.

The first house I 2nd fixed, I put all the sockets on upside down as I was so used to the earth pin being at the top!

All the best in your new ventures and keep in touch.

James

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Thank you for all the best wishes guys. Visa was approved on Tuesday. Flying out on Thursday morning (29/10) business class no less! Girlfriend's company is paying so I convinced her that this will probably be this lucky to experience flying in this manner!

Got a great leaving party planned for tonight (going as Mick Dundee). Gotta get things cancelled and tools 'down under'.

Will keep you updated to what it's like and job opportunities for anyone who is interested.

Guiness Drink:YB-)

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