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  1. Ardet R

    Recommendations for a small domestic (Cheap) ICP NE Hertfordshire

    Thank you. Life has been strange at times and I generally have had no free time for forums unfortunately. Hopefully things may change soon. Thought I could slide in a question without anyone noticing!
  2. Ardet R

    Recommendations for a small domestic (Cheap) ICP NE Hertfordshire

    Hi Just posting to ask if anyone would know of an Independent Connection Provider who would cover NE Hertfordshire for a small TP supply cable install. I have a customer who needs a TP supply installing and the UKPN cost is eyewatering, he has tried to contact some ICPs but they are not...
  3. Ardet R

    Hob

    You would need to be able to make some assessment of the installation method for your 6mm² twin and earth cable. If the cable is entirely surrounded by insulation for a distance then you would be limited to 20A, though most other methods would allow a 32A breaker. Without this information you...
  4. Ardet R

    Live earth reverse???

    I would tend to concentrate on Doc Hudson's lost Neutral, presumably if all sockets show Line Earth reverse the neutrals are not connected at the board. Oh and all the neutrals will be at line potential! Normally you have: L-N 230V,  L-E 230V,  N-E 0V A Line Earth reverse will Give L-N 0V...
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    "Consecutive" Voltage Drops

    Going back to basic electronics the voltage dropped over a resistor is only dependent on the current and resistance i.e. V=IR. The same principle applies when the "resistor" is a cable. Therefore the value of volts dropped is correct for each section and the total is then compared to 230V to get...
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    "Consecutive" Voltage Drops

    You add the volt drop for each section together to find the total volt drop from origin to end of circuit. I did this diagram earlier to show calculation of volt drop for varying cables in a circuit. Obviously it would usually be larger csa cables first and smaller csa toward the end, and the...
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    "Consecutive" Voltage Drops

    The volt drop is measured from the origin of the installation to the end of the circuit (or the worst case point in the circuit if it branches or is a ring). Volt drop is generally only considered during the design stage so the voltage would be taken to be the nominal supply voltage of 230V...
  8. Ardet R

    2365 L3 Design Project

    So you have done all that except the fifth one to resolve the adiabatic equation for confirming the cpc size. I also missed your post of "Thank you, that's helped. Would you say the Design Current to be 16A, then your In could be 20A? I will have another go at the calculation, just so I...
  9. Ardet R

    2365 L3 Design Project

    From table 54.7 a 2.5mm² conductor is OK, so however you calculate the adiabatic equation it should come out as suitable. You can't put 2.5mm² into an equation, square it multiply it and divide it and then reverse the process to get the same answer you put into the equation as it is...
  10. Ardet R

    Generator Earth Testing

    You have your supply generator as a source and the neutral is earthed (resistance to earth 7.1Ω?).  This earth path is only transferred to the building via the Neutral conductor so it is using a TNC conductor.  I do not know the rules for this under the rail regulations but not permitted on the...
  11. Ardet R

    2365 L3 Design Project

    You are told it is a 16A circuit, you are not given the design current, if you specify a type B 16A BSEN60898 then maximum Zs @70°C is 2.73Ω Ze is 0.11Ω, therefore R1+R2 must be less than 2.62Ω @70°C. From the installation method (singles in conduit) and assuming maximum current as you do not...
  12. Ardet R

    2365 L3 Design Project

    The first bit is OK with some overkill on the currents and cables but compliant and workable. For the second why have you used 0.4s as the trip time with a fault current of 2090A? Your cpc size would usually be expected to be smaller than your line conductor csa when using the adiabatic equation.
  13. Ardet R

    2365 L3 Design Project

    You are correct with reading the R1+R2 value from table I1: 2.30 mΩ/m for a 16mm² line and cpc. Tabulated value x length gives the R1+R2 at 20°C in milliohms. To get the R1+R2 value at maximum normal conductor operating temperature (70°C) multiply by 1.2. To get the value at 35°C multiply by...
  14. Ardet R

    2365 L3 Design Project

    Feel free to post a synopsis of the lighting and we can provide feedback on the design. I am not sure how much design for loading you need to include in this question.  A cafe can be a very heavy load and might need two circuits on its own in order to ensure availability of power to a...
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    2365 L3 Design Project

    If you look at appendix 3 of BS7671 the tables beside the graphs give the Ia, minimum disconnection current to use. For a 6A type B it is 30A as given on page 370.
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