I installed 3 outside flood lights all 50 w LED with a PIR .The lights seem to become faulty atfer a month or so.All wiring correct etc..The house also has solar panels .The flood lights are BG .Any one else has had these problems ?
50W Outside Flood Light Problems
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One of my wholesalers refuses to stock the security versions as its always the sensor that fails
One of my wholesalers refuses to stock the security versions as its always the sensor that fails
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I think forum members would need far more information. What are the symptoms/problems? What tests have you carried out? Have you tried the fittings in another environment to test?
Post 2 posted whilst I was typing would appear to put the sensor as a possible fault :slap
Post 2 posted whilst I was typing would appear to put the sensor as a possible fault :slap
The PIR is separate from the 3 LED lights .All tests carried out are good .Its the 50w LED outside lights keep failing Has anyone else had this problem
Sorry, I misunderstood your op... I thought that you were on about the security versions
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Presumably the lights fail after a while.
What tests have you done to determine if it's the PIR sensor unit that has failed or the actual light?
If you have had that many failures, the obvious thing to suggest is the units are substandard. return them as not fit for purpose and try a different make?
What tests have you done to determine if it's the PIR sensor unit that has failed or the actual light?
If you have had that many failures, the obvious thing to suggest is the units are substandard. return them as not fit for purpose and try a different make?
Yes you are very right,but I just thought I would ask if any one else has had the same problem ?
not too unusual for LED gear, failure rate seems to be quite high, look for units with long warranties on the drivers.
Are the sensors capable of switching such low loads,?
What make are the floods , Harvey, ?
How much were they by the way ?
How much were they by the way ?
50W led floods must have quite a start up current - could you try using one light and the PIR to see if that combination works?
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The driver may well have a smpsu so that would probably have a tx so there could be an inrush, plus you would probably have caps across the mains, presenting a dead short to the supply for a VERY short time, so the inrush may, be more than the 50W load might suggest.
Oh for the balmy, hazy, crazy days of the 100w GLS lamp ....happily developing more heat than light but did we care ....no !!
I`ve had a security version fail under warranty - the new one is currently languishing in the back of the van - somewhere - until such times as I go to replace it ( customer saw fit to `phone at 7.15 on a Saturday morning, to tell me - when I`d been on a night job until 3.00 a.m). - so he`s somewhere near the back of the queue :slap
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Absolutely. Have you never heard this?
Its caught many a newbie spark out - mainly if you have too may LED's on a 6A MCB
News to me as well, kindly explain theory?
Inrush can be an issue but with most of the newer LED kit it is not an issue, although asking manufacturer first is always a good shout.
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With the recent issue I`ve had with a commercial client ( replaced a load of fittings in his pub, AND his own house - Aurora LED GU10s - black casings - a dozen failed within 12 months - they`re discontinued; but the seller swapped the duff ones for new ( white!) lamps
Makes you feel like a bloody arse, when you`ve extolled the virtues of good quality, branded kit that costs a bit more..............
Never heard of `em before - but THAT is an impressive claim.
With the recent issue I`ve had with a commercial client ( replaced a load of fittings in his pub, AND his own house - Aurora LED GU10s - black casings - a dozen failed within 12 months - they`re discontinued; but the seller swapped the duff ones for new ( white!) lamps
Makes you feel like a bloody arse, when you`ve extolled the virtues of good quality, branded kit that costs a bit more..............
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