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I am interested in training as a "Smart Meter Installer" but am struggling to find any companies/recruitment agencies with vacancies. I presently work as a Meter Operative for a Data Collection company who used to offer training but recently opportunities to upskill have become "few and far between". Apart from 7 years working as a "Meter Op" I have no formal qualifications in Electricity or Gas. I have found this self funding option by a training company called ECTA Become a Smart Meter Installer with ECTA Training in Stockport - https://ectatraining.co.uk/become-smart-meter-installer/ This option will require a financial contribution from myself of £7440 and involves 13weeks of training - 7 weeks classroom study & 6 weeks training "on the job" near my home postcode. Is anyone familiar with this course and can anyone vouch for it?
 

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Sharpend

Sounds like a scam? Didn’t think there was too much involved with swapping meters to be fair. I’ve known of plumbers changing to become meter fitters. :C 

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kerching

Daughters mate does it for Eon

she used to be a Pole dancer

 

Possbly a couple of days training

 

just saying.....don't waste yer cash

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Evans Electric

£ 7440 .00    ...          to change meters  .jjjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :o:Godno::BadIdea:   

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Sharpend

Well deke, haven’t you mastered the emoji!!

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Murdoch

Wow, £7444 gets you what exactly ?

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Andy™

run. run away and dont look back

Just now, Murdoch said:

Wow, £7444 gets you what exactly ?

£4 change

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ProDave

So at the moment you fit ordinary meters, for which I assume your employer pays you.

 

If your employer wants yo to instead fit smart meters, then your employer should pay for the training and continue paying you.

 

If your employer won't train you, carry on fitting ordinary meters.

 

That would be my take.

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Andy™
2 minutes ago, ProDave said:

So at the moment you fit ordinary meters, for which I assume your employer pays you.

 

 

'meter operative for a data collection company' sounds more like an OTT version of 'meter reader' tbh

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binky
3 hours ago, Evans Electric said:

£ 7440 .00    ...          to change meters  .jjjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzz  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :o:Godno::BadIdea:   

 and some! Firkin extortionate :redcard

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Murdoch

it is "duel fuel" - so a snip!

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kerching

Bargain

sign me up now

 

yep....meter reader I reckon

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Evans Electric
4 hours ago, Sharpend said:

Well deke, haven’t you mastered the emoji!!

Yes I could never access them before  , when someone added  those cheapo ones  ,    that is , of course , why  I upgraded the Forum to a faster   erm    thingymajig . 

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Murdoch
1 minute ago, kerching said:

Bargain

sign me up now

 

yep....meter reader I reckon

 

Did you notice the salaries they are suggesting?

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Kurly

Right question in the wrong place!

If you guys were familiar with the Smart meter world you would know that most companies that train Smart Meter fitters take a percentage of your wage once qualified to pay back the cost of training. They also initially pay a lower wage and  write into your contract that you must work for the company that trained you for 2-3 years so that they get value from their investment. Either way you're paying for the training.

ECTA seem to be taking a different approach.

My main concern is shelling out a load of cash and then struggling academically. Remember, I have no electrical or Gas background and this will involve 13weeks of fairly intense study compared to the usual 20week college course leading to a "Level 2 Diploma in Smart Metering(Dual Fuel)"

That said, according to ECTA that has only happened once, funnily enough to an "electrical engineer" who struggled to get to grips with some of the "gas metering".

 

Correct Andy/Kerching, I am a Meter reader. Meter operative is what's written on my contract. Thought you lot would be a bit better bred!;-)

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Sharpend

Ok so you want to shell out over £7k for training on a smart meter installation course, how long will that take you to pay back and actually earn a living from the job? You’ve already suggested that the companies that employ you and train you want you to stay 2-3 years to gain from their investment and I can assure you it doesn’t cost them the same as ECTA will charge you. So have you a spare 5-8years? 

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SPECIAL LOCATION
10 hours ago, Kurly said:

I am interested in training as a "Smart Meter Installer" but am struggling to find any companies/recruitment agencies with vacancies. I presently work as a Meter Operative for a Data Collection company who used to offer training but recently opportunities to upskill have become "few and far between". Apart from 7 years working as a "Meter Op" I have no formal qualifications in Electricity or Gas. I have found this self funding option by a training company called ECTA Become a Smart Meter Installer with ECTA Training in Stockport - https://ectatraining.co.uk/become-smart-meter-installer/ This option will require a financial contribution from myself of £7440 and involves 13weeks of training - 7 weeks classroom study & 6 weeks training "on the job" near my home postcode. Is anyone familiar with this course and can anyone vouch for it?
 

 

I think the answer is in your question.....

 

But.. IF...  and its a BIG IF.. companies were crying out for the sort of candidates that would be the result from this £7000+ course...

then I think you would be seeing adverts for vacancies here there & everywhere..

 

If I were investing that sort of money in a limited scope training course, I guess I'd have to be pretty desperate to think it worth while....

Or have bucket loads of cash floating around that I can afford to loose on a whim...

 

I think you need to look at this like putting £7000 on the lottery...

You may get  decent return..   OR you may loose the lot!!

(or its like training to do car mechanics just on a single manufacture,  rather than generic all makes,  so the skills you learn are not very transferable!) 

 

I am NOT 100% convinced that a single person changing BOTH Gas & Electric, is a thing that actually happens much...

 

We first had smart meter fitted in 2008..

Then replaced in 2019...

Both cases it was separate staff doing Gas & Electric options.....

 

:C

 

Edited by SPECIAL LOCATION

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Andy™

so basically a course in how to change a meter is more intense, takes longer and costs more than a 5 week course to become an 'electrician'?!

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Sharpend

That’s because they’re smart meters no ordinary meter. 

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kerching

I think in this case then it may well be Rocket Science

 

i am intrigued to know what actually happens on the course

 

Morning day 1

isolate

pull fuse

check for dead

dsc old meter wires

reconnect new meter wires

set up,smart switch

break for coffee

re energise

test

Lunch

economy 7 options

questions

look out of window

 

 

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Murdoch
16 hours ago, Kurly said:

Right question in the wrong place!

If you guys were familiar with the Smart meter world you would know that most companies that train Smart Meter fitters take a percentage of your wage once qualified to pay back the cost of training. They also initially pay a lower wage and  write into your contract that you must work for the company that trained you for 2-3 years so that they get value from their investment. Either way you're paying for the training.

ECTA seem to be taking a different approach.

My main concern is shelling out a load of cash and then struggling academically. Remember, I have no electrical or Gas background and this will involve 13weeks of fairly intense study compared to the usual 20week college course leading to a "Level 2 Diploma in Smart Metering(Dual Fuel)"

That said, according to ECTA that has only happened once, funnily enough to an "electrical engineer" who struggled to get to grips with some of the "gas metering".

 

Correct Andy/Kerching, I am a Meter reader. Meter operative is what's written on my contract. Thought you lot would be a bit better bred!;-)

 

 

You were doing OK until you wrote this and now I see you are being critical about us 😕

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Sharpend

@kerching You have forgotten definitions, remember these are mostly non electrically minded souls. 

so, Isolate they might think they have to do it when on their own with no one else around?

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kerching
45 minutes ago, Sharpend said:

@kerching You have forgotten definitions, remember these are mostly non electrically minded souls. 

so, Isolate they might think they have to do it when on their own with no one else around?

Good point BUT Boris has reduced social distancing to 1m so isolation may not be needed

 

 

strange that the Virus has been able to differentiate between Aldi and a Church up until now   Now they are both the same BUT don't sing in the Church. No mention of old single men whistling in supermarkets though

 

its a funny old world

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Andy™
3 hours ago, kerching said:

I think in this case then it may well be Rocket Science

 

i am intrigued to know what actually happens on the course

 

Morning day 1

isolate

break for coffee

Lunch

look out of window

 

 

 

think many people will be an expert at those, having done that for the last few month

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