Clipping to hard cement

[Andy™]

had a few jobs lately where cables were to be clipped direct to external brick, and some of them, the cement has been like steel and nails just bend. and this is even with tower clips! any tips? for some, i ended up with a 5.5 hole with a red plug, and changed the nail for a clout nail... surely there is an easier way

 

[wozz]

4.5mm hole, yellow plug, use normal nail in clip. Works most of the time for me.

 

[Andy™]

tried with the yellow plugs too, but the gap in the plug was too big to support the nail

 

[Apache]

what about some hardwood dowel? Drill a suitably sized hole, tap dowel in, normal nail?

just a thought?

 

[batty]

Drill smallest hole you can and use a match thats the way I do it.

Batty

 

[Andy™]

the dowel is a good idea - no gap in there so nail should fit nicely. will have to get some of them to try next time im at screwfix

 

[Apache]

the dowel is a good idea - no gap in there so nail should fit nicely. will have to get some of them to try next time im at screwfix

they are no money

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200-PK-WOODEN-HOLE-DOWEL-PINS-6MM-X-30MM_W0QQitemZ300319796127QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Building_Materials_Supplies_Carpentry_Woodwork_ET?hash=item45ec746b9f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

 

[green-hornet]

If you can afford it you could use the spitt nail gun it has attachements for electrical fasteners.

Me? i use a 5.5 and red plugs the towers nails will hold without needing to use clout nails.

 

[Andy™]

i dont need to go get a nail gun for the odd cable clip! i already have more than enough tools in the van!

problems with the red/yellow plugs is nail just fitted in the gap with plenty room to spare so clout nail was used

 

[ianmacd]

they are no moneyhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200-PK-WOODEN-HOLE-DOWEL-PINS-6MM-X-30MM_W0QQitemZ300319796127QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_Building_Materials_Supplies_Carpentry_Woodwork_ET?hash=item45ec746b9f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

They look the same as the ones I have and if so then they are not hardwood.

Ian.

 

[Riggy]

I use 5.5mm dill and 6mm dowelling, I'm too mean to buy them ready cut, cheaper to buy 2.4m lenths and chop up with cable croppers, works a dream, but slower than straight clipping obviously.

Riggy

 

[Andy™]

still faster than changing nail for clout nail!

 

[Apache]

They look the same as the ones I have and if so then they are not hardwood.Ian.

Ok I buy my dowels from Axminster, they are beech - hardwood. I had ebay open in another tab and typed in 'dowel'



clicky

 

[ianmacd]

Can you not use screw fixings? I use an SDS cordless and a cordless driver too so its not a major issue for me but that would get annoying if you had a long run.

 

[ianmacd]

Long dowel of hardwood as Riggy said is probably best. You could use a chisel to cut it off once its in if its too long too.

 

[spinlondon]

Hilti nail gun.

 

[binky]

The answer is Pin Plugs, small plugs designed to take the nail of the clips - I get them from my local wholesaler. Not sure where you would get them on internet.

Quality Electrical Distributors Ltd

(01752) 265227

 

[Theorysparky]

B+Q do them

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=pin+plugs

4 mm drill bit and a tack hammer

happy days

 

[ian932]

The answer is Pin Plugs, small plugs designed to take the nail of the clips - I get them from my local wholesaler. Not sure where you would get them on internet.Quality Electrical Distributors Ltd

(01752) 265227

http://www.towerman.co.uk/pdf/fixings/hammerfix.pdf

 

[binky]

B+Q do themhttp://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?isSearch=true&fh_search=pin+plugs

4 mm drill bit and a tack hammer

happy days

That's the beasties Applaud Smiley