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daveygh

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had a headache problem today thats driving me mad, i'll try and give as much info as possible

10 amp type 2 mcb lighting circuit feeding 18 600x600 led modular fittings over 2 rooms (9 in each) measured load when on 3.8 amps total

feed comes from the board to a key switch then up to emergency light clik rose then loops into PIR then down to feed a 3 gang switch, three switch lines come back up to switch 3 rows of 3 lights,

when you enter the room you switch the 3 switches on and if you leave the room for 15 mins the PIR switches the lights off ,on re-entering the PIR brings the lights back on. However 4 out of 5 times this works fine but every now and again the circuit trips. The second room has exactly the same set up and is looped of the first room and this works fine.

the problem occurs when at least 2 of the rows are switched on but not if only 1 row is on, it doesnt trip if lights are plugged in one at a time but does if more than one are plugged in.

took out the PIR and connected the feed straight through and the problem still exists operating the key switch (but not every time )

ran out of time today so going back tomorrow, going to disconnect everything off the circuit and IR test the circuit but any other suggestions would be gratefully accepted

 
thought that originally but lights are LED- minimal start current, and problem occurs in only 1 room and still does it with the other room taken off the circuit

lights are only a couple of months old they were put in by another firm that folded over christmas so cant get them to come back

 
had a headache problem today thats driving me mad, i'll try and give as much info as possible10 amp type 2 mcb lighting circuit feeding 18 600x600 led modular fittings over 2 rooms (9 in each) measured load when on 3.8 amps total

feed comes from the board to a key switch then up to emergency light clik rose then loops into PIR then down to feed a 3 gang switch, three switch lines come back up to switch 3 rows of 3 lights,

when you enter the room you switch the 3 switches on and if you leave the room for 15 mins the PIR switches the lights off ,on re-entering the PIR brings the lights back on. However 4 out of 5 times this works fine but every now and again the circuit trips. The second room has exactly the same set up and is looped of the first room and this works fine.

the problem occurs when at least 2 of the rows are switched on but not if only 1 row is on, it doesnt trip if lights are plugged in one at a time but does if more than one are plugged in.

took out the PIR and connected the feed straight through and the problem still exists operating the key switch (but not every time ) ran out of time today so going back tomorrow, going to disconnect everything off the circuit and IR test the circuit but any other suggestions would be gratefully accepted
tried it without the PIR

 
Sorry, missed that!

Clamp the inrush it seems to be then?

WOW!

LED fittings, definitely clamp the inrush!

Stop & think about it...

Not being funny, just hoping you'll all twig!

Please don't take offense.

Just take a step back and re-read your posts.

 
Leds normally have a very low inrush current, some even have none.

What voltage are the led lights

 
Led drivers will still take the same inrush as if they were mains, regardless of the actual running current.

 
so in theory its cheaper to leave the led christmas lights switched on on the christmas tree than keep switching on and off, bonus more lights being turned on for next year then :C :D :D:Applaud:ApplaudO)

 
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