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What Scheme Are You Registered With?

What Scheme are you registered with ?  

22 members have voted

  1. 1. What Scheme are you with?

    • NICEIC DI
      5
    • NICEIC AC
      6
    • STROMA
      2
    • ECA
      1
    • NAPIT Defined Scope
      0
    • NAPIT Full Scope
      2
    • ELECSA
      1
    • OTHER
      2
    • NONE
      3
    • RATHER NOT SAY
      1
    • I'M A VET AND DONT NEED TO BE
      1
    • I'm in Scotland Laddie
      1


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Lurch

Where’s “non of your business”

OTHER

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Canoeboy

What is wrong with being a DI.? The limited scope of works we do does not require AC.

I've seen plenty of poor workmanship from AC's.

What's the difference? A bigger cheque?

 

It doesn't matter what you are, DI, AC, MCS, Full Scope, Limited Scope, Plumber, Kitchen Fitter, Jack of All Trades.....

 

So long as the cheque has cleared you will be a member of the scam you choose......

 

Its not a matter of competence, just a matter of the bigger the cheque the more your looked after......

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sprocketflup

Yeah, that NIC theyll let any old monkee in these days

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Andy™

 

Its not a matter of competence, just a matter of the bigger the cheque the more your looked after......

 

i wouldnt even say that bit is true

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binky

concurr with Andy, too much commercialism, not enough service, but that's the modern world we live in!

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pewter

I am DI with NICEIC. i am only with them so i can do self certification.

 

 

They keep trying to upsell me AC, which to those that know what it means might make my cards and invoices look slightly better due to the letters AC instead of DI.    When i consider the extra cost and time for assessment and hassle of organising more jobs to visit and bothering my customers just so i can have AC instead of DI i really can not be bothered.

 

 

If i had some real cream jobs that insisted i had AC and paid me exceptionally well i would do it. As it will not make me any more money i will stick with DI. If i did not need to notify i wouldnt bother with any of them.  I am not aware of any benifits being AC will give me.

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Andy™

might make my cards and invoices look slightly better due to the letters AC instead of DI.

 

i dont have and wouldnt put any scam info on any of my paperwork etc. some business cards have 'part p registered', but thats it

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binky

AC can open doors to commercial customers, like council, and its no more hassle thean DI assessment every year. Also comes with bragging rights of a sort.....

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Essex1

i dont have and wouldnt put any scam info on any of my paperwork etc. some business cards have 'part p registered', but thats it

I have an e-mail footer with the various schemes we are members of. Nothing on anything else.

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Evans Electric

The biggest scam on the trade in recent times is at the introduction of " Competent Persons "    " Part Pee" schemes ...NICEIC decided to ignore the fact that all their existing AC members had already been checked , registered as competent , often for many years , and launched  a second DI scheme .

 

Now I'm not sure on this but did all the existing  members who were already competent in house bashing have to join the second DI scheme & pay twice ? 

 

And if so .......why did they stand for it ?

 

I could say it was similar for people like myself  who, for many years, had been graded as a JIB Approved Electrician but was suddenly deemed incompetent for house bashing unless I joined one of the new schemes .   There you are running projects on hospitals , schools , MOD , Police , local councils , industrial etc etc    but , on the introduction of Phart Pee are deemed to be incompetent for house bashing .

 

What a load of old ballcocks it all is .  

 

As for what scheme I'm in  its  a "Mind your own business" from me .     

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Tony S

A year after I came out of my time I was appointed a “competent person”. IE able to carry out work/switching on our distribution system.

The industry I was in it was a statutory requirement.

 

Each switch had either a blue “competent person” label or a red “authorised person” label. Basically you had to understand the consequences of your actions.

 

I resent the scams using the term “competent person” for the semi-skilled (I can’t bring myself to use the word electrician).

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steptoe

Isn't that why they don't call them competent?

Merely installers,,,,,, 

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ProDave

In my previous employment, I used to be a "Senior Approved Person Electrical" (SAPE) I never really did figure if that was some statutory thing or just something unique to the industry I was in.

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Essex1

The word competent is all relative.

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Tony S

What industry was that?

 

CP

AP

SAP

 

Are usually private distribution networks.

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kerching

The biggest scam on the trade in recent times is at the introduction of " Competent Persons "    " Part Pee" schemes ...NICEIC decided to ignore the fact that all their existing AC members had already been checked , registered as competent , often for many years , and launched  a second DI scheme .

 

Now I'm not sure on this but did all the existing  members who were already competent in house bashing have to join the second DI scheme & pay twice ? 

 

And if so .......why did they stand for it ?

 

I could say it was similar for people like myself  who, for many years, had been graded as a JIB Approved Electrician but was suddenly deemed incompetent for house bashing unless I joined one of the new schemes .   There you are running projects on hospitals , schools , MOD , Police , local councils , industrial etc etc    but , on the introduction of Phart Pee are deemed to be incompetent for house bashing .

 

What a load of old ballcocks it all is .  

 

As for what scheme I'm in  its  a "Mind your own business" from me .

As an NICEIC AC i woke up,one morning to be told i was still competent and would become a DI at no extra charge if i wanted!

Whoop de fecking whoo!

I politely informed the tw@s that if after a nights sleep,I was suddenly not capable of house bashing then they could shove their scheme up,their Barrymore and i would start litigation against them for taking money under false pretences from us since 1956!

I did not "join a scam" more like I had a scam "thrust upon me" at no cost , so i just went with it for the rare occasion when i need it

Just saying

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Essex1

What does the DI scheme do that the AC does not?

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NozSpark

Ahh,,, but as an AC you don't have to have the DI if you don't want/need it!!

Edited by NozSpark

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Essex1

But if the AC covers everything why would you even want the DI. I have both and tbh I do not know why. We would never say we were DI however.

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NozSpark

Because if you choose to be an AC without the DI (add-on) you are not deemed competent to carry out work that comes under Part P

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steptoe

Because if you choose to be an AC without the DI (add-on) you are not deemed competent to carry out work that comes under Part P

 

Are you serious?

:shakehead 

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Essex1

Because if you choose to be an AC without the DI (add-on) you are not deemed competent to carry out work that comes under Part P

Go away. Seriously?

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Blue Duck

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:lol:

You're not deemed competent (or whatever they call it now) until you have signed the cheque!

:|

Edited by Blue Duck

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NozSpark

Yes, you have to be a registered Domestic Installer to carry out Part P domestic installations

 

For instance you could be an AC specialising in railway installations and never touch domestic :tongue in cheek ,,,, so would that mean that you are aware of all the relevant building regs that go with domestic work??

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Essex1

I just looked at their site and it says an AC is covered to carry out domestic works under that badge.

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